# Automation on ... automation point position?

**URL:** https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809
**Category:** FMOD Studio
**Created:** [October 18, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809 "2021-10-18T08:53:23Z")
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### Author: ![g.hadji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b19c9b/32.png) [@g.hadji](https://qa.fmod.com/u/g.hadji)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/1 "2021-10-18T08:53:23Z")

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Hi.  
I wonder if this is possible to automate the position of a certain point of a parmeter automation curve, with another parameter, or to say it more simply, change the shape of a parameter automation curve depending on another parameter value ?

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### Author: ![Alcibiade](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/qa.fmod.com/alcibiade/32/4284_2.png) [@Alcibiade](https://qa.fmod.com/u/Alcibiade)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/2 "2021-10-18T09:21:49Z")

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What do you mean by position? Vertical position? Could you be more specific and give an exemple?

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### Author: ![g.hadji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b19c9b/32.png) [@g.hadji](https://qa.fmod.com/u/g.hadji)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/3 "2021-10-18T09:39:05Z")

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By position I mean vertical or horizontal position. in my case I have one continuous sound which is about scrapping some sand. I have a volume flat and continuous asset sand wich volume is altered by a “velocity” parameter. The more the scrapping is fast in-game, the more the volume of the event is loud (from -inf to 0db). I have another continuous parameter “volumeRange” which I want to control the volume range of the “velocity” automation (let’s say that when “volumeRange” = 0, “velocity” range = -inf to 0db; and when “volumeRange” = 1, “velocity” range = -6db to 0db). In this case I only want to change the vertical position of my minimum volume point, but why not being able to automate any value(x or/and y) of a point ?

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### Author: ![Alcibiade](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/qa.fmod.com/alcibiade/32/4284_2.png) [@Alcibiade](https://qa.fmod.com/u/Alcibiade)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/4 "2021-10-18T10:30:56Z")

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You cannot do this kind of things. But in your exemple, you could maybe link your “range value” parameter to a compressor (ratio/threshold and gain).

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### Author: ![g.hadji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b19c9b/32.png) [@g.hadji](https://qa.fmod.com/u/g.hadji)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/5 "2021-10-18T11:50:54Z")

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Yes using a compressor could work but I fear that the result may not sound as natural. I think I rather use a second identical asset synchronized to the first one, without applying it the “velocity parameter” and fade beetwen the two assets with the “volumeRange” parameter. I don’t know if there is some people who would like to see a “automation point automation” feature implemented in the future but I think it would be quite interesting.

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### Author: ![Alcibiade](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/qa.fmod.com/alcibiade/32/4284_2.png) [@Alcibiade](https://qa.fmod.com/u/Alcibiade)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://qa.fmod.com/t/automation-on-automation-point-position/17809/6 "2021-10-18T12:02:30Z")

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> [@g.hadji](#):
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> I think I rather use a second identical asset synchronized to the first one, without applying it the “velocity parameter” and fade beetwen the two assets with the “volumeRange” parameter.

Good idea!
